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KIRBY: I was a good student in the subjects that I wanted to be good in. So I pick up this pulp magazine, and it’s and it’s got a rocket-ship on the cover, and I’d never seen a rocket-ship. ” I took it home and hid it under the pillow so nobody should know I was reading it. KIRBY: I taught myself how to draw, and I soon found out it was what I really wanted to do. GROTH: What artists did you admire in your teen years? I admired anybody who could make a buck with his drawing.

GROTH; Now, can you tell me what your family life was like? It was a rainy day, and it was floating toward the sewer in the gutter. GROTH: So, after Pratt you taught yourself how to draw. I’m trying to find out how you actually learned to draw, how you learned anatomy. Some artists may take it from other illustrations or duplicate what you’ve drawn, but it will never have that gut reality that’s instinctive in the artist.

GROTH: Let’s talk about how you learned to draw, I understand that at age 11, you began getting how-to-draw books at a local library and started —KIRBY: Yes I did. I was drawing editorial cartoons for the syndicate, and I drew a thing called “Your Health Comes First.” I was called in once for drawing an editorial cartoon when Chamberlain made that pact with Hitler. I thought comics was a common form of art and strictly American in my estimation because America was the home of the common man, and show me the common man that can’t do a comic. It’s not a formal art, I feel a fine artist is never through with his work because it’s never perfect to him.

All families love their children, and we were good boys. And of course, if the fellows caught me reading it or doing anything academic outside of school…, of course, it was astonishing to see this beautiful illustration in the newspaper, and it was so different from the ordinary comic. I didn’t think I was going to create any great masterpieces like Rembrandt or Gauguin.

KIRBY: He was as tough as anybody else, but he was young. My mother wanted my brother to wear nice clothes and be a big style kid.