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"But, no, you're a good kisser."As if the interview weren't "sufficiently awkward" enough at this point, Unglert asks Schulman how she'll think of him two decades from now. I know what I've learned and I'm continuing to work on that, and I appreciate you being there to help work on it with me. ""Well, this is your podcast," Schulman fires back. "I get carried away with trying to get my point across, when I need to hear theirs, too..."As the conversation comes to a close, Unglert apologizes for "kind of blindsiding" Schulman with his phone call, adding, "I appreciate you taking the time to talk about our dating foibles."Says Schulman, "It's only as awkward as you make it.""I'm making it awkward," Unglert says. We're obviously doing it very publicly and everyone's able to watch us and have their own opinion about it. "We haven't really talked about that.""With the conversations we've had, I probably came off aggressive a few times, but I'm learning to be a little more sensitive," Schulman says, adding that she needs to let others speak more often.

"Maybe I'm a little too critical at times; you give me an inch and I take a mile with certain things. But another thing, I guess, is you tend to like sugarcoat things and not say exactly how you feel.

When you get married to someone, or when you fall in love with someone, their actions and their words influence you a lot more than they would otherwise."Schulman admits it's "really weird" to tell Unglert "how terrible" he is at dating.

I have a little more insight into the way people are affected by what you say and what you'd do, instead of just the real world application," Unglert tells his listeners.

As crappy of an experience as it was, I definitely leant a lot of insight and [it was a] growing opportunity for me, so it'd be interesting to see it displayed again for the world to see.

He played on the baseball and varsity basketball teams, studied drama, and competed in public speaking through the Indiana High School Forensic Association.